Manhattan Round-table: State of the Market
A: Lets check in with some of Manhattan real estate's elite producers and managers to see what they are seeing in the field now that Q2 came to an end. Consider this a Manhattan round-table on the current state of the market.
First, another quick look at Manhattan PENDING SALES vs $5M+ PENDING SALES - just to show you how Manhattan's higher end has compared to the broader market in terms of pace of demand:

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RAPHAEL DENIRO (The DeNiro Group @ Douglas Elliman)
"We're seeing a typical seasonal slowdown but nothing too dramatic. The $5M and up market is very healthy. We noticed a bit of hesitation out there when the DJIA was down 6 weeks in a row but Equities markets seem to have stabilized which is critical to the overall psychology of Manhattan RE"My comment: The 'bit of hesitation' Raphael refers to was the ripple effect of a possible Greek debt default. As is the case since 2009, a second bailout plan was passed with the hope to buy time. Does it solve the underlying issue in the EU? No. Expect more volatility in equity markets once the PIIGS (Portugal, Ireland, Italy, Greece, Spain) debt issues resurface. You can only kick the can down the road for so long. If/When equities do react sustainably to underlying debt issues that linger out there, expect a negative wealth effect to impact our markets at a lag. For now, its just a concern.
I agree with the action in Manhattan's higher end segments, they have performed wonderfully for the past 6-8 months or so. The data continues to show that Manhattan had a very active 2011 start so far.
NIKKI FIELD (The Field Team @ Sotheby's International)
"Q2 continued to be all about the International Buyer. In particular, the world's Emerging Elite are at our shores. China and India are now surpassing our European and Russian customers in volume purchases, however their price points tend to be lower as they are sampling the residential inventory buffet. Many new skills sets are needed to best represent these culturally diverse purchasers. The Chinese tend to approach their negotiations as an on-going dialogue with dramatic direction reversals while the Indian buyers exercise restraint and patience and wait until the seller capitulates. Whatever the origination, these global investors recognize the Manhattan market as a safe and opportune target.My comment: I love Nikki's in depth comments on her team's in the field observations. This is not the first time I am hearing stories of foreign buyers splurging on Manhattan property, especially Asian investors. Very interesting to see the majority of the Field Team's deals are foreigners. The depth of wealth that is interested in Manhattan property never ceases to amaze me. While Manhattan is not immune to market/macro forces, you simply cannot compare the behavior of this marketplace to other big US cities that are still searching for a bounce in activity and a bottom in home prices.
Real time Data: Our Team signed 11 new deals this quarter, 6 were purchased with non-dollar currencies. We have 9 deals in play today and only 3 are US buyers. Summer 2011 is proving to be a new foreign invasion."
FREDERICK PETERS ( Frederick Peters @ Warburg Realty)
"The second quarter rolled in like a lion and rolled out more like a lamb. We saw prices at all time highs for some larger properties in April and May, but as summer began my agents saw the pace of co-op transactions slow across the boards as economic realities once again made many New Yorkers apprehensive about the future. Foreign buyers meanwhile are keeping the condo market strong. "My comment: Fred is a manager and leader at Warburg and has access to all the firms' recent production. It would be silly to ignore what he is saying about the high end market right now given the data on recent high end executed contracts that he has. With that said, we have further confirmation on 'foreigners buying Manhattan property' and how bids were coming in for 'larger properties'.
DEANNA KORY ( Deanna Kory Team @ Corcoran)
"The market slowed a bit in Q2 in certain segments. Since I deal more UWS and UES, I can say that high end did really well if a great and unique apartment. Large above the trees CENTRAL PARK WEST Apartments sold high and Park Avenue was steady in the 7 plus room category. Overall, 2 bedrooms continue to sell remarkably well. We did see some slowing in the classic 7-8 room UWS sales unless priced so they felt like a "value". I sold a classic 8 corner unit @ the white house for $9,910,000. It was a record for an 8 in that Building. "My comment: Getting record prices for larger units is something I have heard from a few colleagues lately. Submarkets with tight inventory but high price points, like Tribeca & W Village, are surprising us with how bids are coming in for well priced high in desirable product that hits the market. There is money out there, thats for sure.
JACKY TEPLITZKY ( Managing Director of The Teplitzky Team @ Douglas Elliman)
"The market is very volatile but steady. Prices are stable. There is less volume of buyers but the ones that are active are serious buyers. Sellers are being more realistic and are willing to price correctly if you give them all the facts. This is a good time to get price reductions as sellers are concern about being stuck during summer months. Sellers that want to "try" pricing higher will suffer as the buyers are very savvy about what a correct price is. Properties in bad condition will take longer to sell.My comment: Another great quote from a consistent leader in sales volume in our industry. What I love best about this quote is what I underlined, "sellers are being more realistic and willing to price correctly IF you give them all the facts"! Love it. This is why I built the UrbanDigs.com real time data platform that is customizable to every segment of the Manhattan marketplace. Show sellers what is happening in their neighborhood & price point! Help them price correctly! We also have further confirmation on the action in the high end and the lack of well priced quality product. You cant just take an average cookie cutter 2,500 sft apt with so so views and price at $5M and expect a strong bid. Its those unique apartments that have that something extra-ordinary that buyers right now are bidding up for! That's the segment of Manhattan real estate that has been on fire lately!
There is a shortage of apartments above 5M. That segment of the market is strong. Foreigners are buying for investment and pied-a-terre. Brazil, India and Far East leading the market here in NYC. "
And there you have it, real-time observations by some of our industry's finest combined with actual data to quantify whats really happening out there.
WHAT ARE YOU SEEING???



Posted by B
Thu Jul 7th, 2011 01:28 PM
$5M = $5,000, $5MM = $5,000,000?
Posted by urbandigs
Thu Jul 7th, 2011 03:13 PM
To me, "MM" is too close to representing "millimeters". I know its the roman numeral for million
I prefer to use "M" to abbreviate "million". I think most people are not confused by this abbreviation on UD.com.
I certainly do not think that "M" would represent "thousands". Im guessing you are in the financial or energy industry, where "millions" is often abbreviated "MM"..
would you agree?
Posted by Kevin Tomlinson
Fri Jul 8th, 2011 08:34 PM
Interesting stuff. NYC real estate is my hobby. Miami real estate is my vocation.
Posted by mm
Fri Jul 8th, 2011 09:03 PM
With all the news about coming layoffs at investment banks and bonuses being 15-20% lower, do you expect a ripple effect on the Manhattan marked in the coming months?
http://www.cnbc.com/id/43686263
Posted by urbandigs
Sat Jul 9th, 2011 08:43 AM
at some point I dont think the activity we have seen the past 4-6 months will be sustained. Now, whether its directly related to what you are talking about OR some other macro force that occurs, I dont know.
Right now, we are at the peak of the progressive reflation both in terms of volume and in my opinion, bid strength. Especially in the high end, 5M+ segment of the market. You will see some crazy deals close over the coming months, in the 2500-3000/sft category, in Tribeca I know of a few that are in contract now. One on Laight St for a PH that went millions over ask. That describes current market for exceptional property that buyers are bidding up for. I dont think its fixed income guys or managing directors that are buying those, I think its overseas money. Just a hunch. So I dont expect it to last forever, but the ride is fun while its here.
I do NOT think the story you mention will affect our markets in such a near term window that you ask about, "in coming months".
Posted by Doreen Courtright
Sat Jul 9th, 2011 11:46 AM
5M means $5,000,000 in my world
5K means $5,000
I just checked our database for contracts signed and offer accepted from 7/5 to 7/8 and it was 185. I think that's a very healthy number for the week after the Fourth of July, when alot of people are away on vacation. I have some very serious buyers who are ready to make the leap and a two new referrals, one Mexican and one from Pakistan. We need more inventory. I can't wait for the fall market. Have a good weekend!
Posted by urbandigs
Sat Jul 9th, 2011 06:06 PM
Thx for the comments Doreen...may I ask what db you refer to for 4 days CSGN totals of 185?? thanks!
Posted by doreen courtright
Sun Jul 10th, 2011 11:15 AM
The Elliman database....you can look up status changes by dates. I also included offer accepted in that. You can also look up new listings, price changes, etc.
Posted by urbandigs
Sun Jul 10th, 2011 02:33 PM
gotcha, so Limo. Ok, thats basically the RLS. only difference between our real time ticker and the RLS and other date range counters are likely the extent to which the data is scrubbed and cleansed...I know we found 100s of data integrity issues with rls source data, and when we first started, we used to see 100s of deals a day, although 40-60% of that count was inaccurate and poisoned by various integrity issues unique to the rolex process. took us 14 months to properly data mine and engineer algorithms for the sole purpose of data quality...so much redundancy in that data for different reasons.
Do they list the 185? As a test, spot check say 30-40 of them randomly and go to SE or share with me and we can see how accurate it is, again, just as a test.
I recall when we first started, I found 6/10 or so in our daily ticker counted a new CSGN listing that never should have been counted. It was a neverending process that Im so glad is over