Misinterpreting 'Bidding War' Statements From Brokers
A: It's time to put the statement 'Bidding Wars' to rest. It's just way too misleading and infers that there was a broad change in price action across the market. When readers see MSM articles titled, "Bidding wars now run-of-the-mill", they mis-interpret that title to mean brokers are yelling how prices are at peak levels again and you better buy now before you miss it. In reality, that interpretation is far off. What you need to know is, that at all times in the market there are 'multiple offer situations' happening. Its highly individual and linked to the motivation and pricing strategy of any one seller. In the end, if you price low enough you will get multiple offers; does that mean the market has shifted? Of course not. Its only on certain occasions that the market sees a shift in inventory, sales pace, and buy side psychology all at once that its worth discussing as a possible changing state of the market. I believe we recently came out of one of those occasions.
Many people wonder why any buyer would even participate in a multiple offer situation. Its easy for sideline buyers and renters to wonder this because they don't know what the individual situations surrounding multiple bidders may be. I often find that my motivated clients with a time pressure to close on a property, only need to lose one sought after property to a higher offer to trigger an attitude change on how the next strategy might be implemented.
In The Real Deal's recent article, "Bidding wars now run-of-the-mill", I noticed this very interesting comment by a reader:
"The only way buyers learn from a bidding war is when they lose the apartment, that way they don't hesitate the next time."There is a lot of truth to that statement. I have seen buyers swear they will never get involved in a situation where multiple offers were submitted and a best & final situation declared, only to change their mind completely once they lose a property or two of serious interest.
That kind of buyer originally thinks:
a) I will control the negotiation
b) The place is worth ONLY what I am willing to pay, nothing more
c) I will wait for the seller to lower the price and/or get more motivated to deal with me
d) Why hasn't this already sold? Where are the bids? There aren't, therefore I am right and the seller is wrong on what their place is worth.
...only to see the property of interest go to contract leaving them wondering who could have stepped up and what price they paid? If the situation was a multiple offer one and the buyer took it easy, its when they lose the deal and see that CONTRACT SIGNED update on the website that they start to believe maybe, just maybe, there are other ready and willing buyers out there bidding on Manhattan property.
Either way, to experience these situations as a serious and motivated buyer is to change something inside the mindset of that buyer. The end result is a buyer that is much more likely to get more aggressive the next time they find a property of interest, after learning of the failure to secure the deal by prior strategies.
Now take a step back and look at the market as a whole. As I said above, "Its only on certain occasions that the market sees a shift in inventory, sales pace, and buy side psychology all at once that its worth discussing as a changing state of the market." One of those times in my opinion was this past January and February. Looking back, I saw the confluence of...
a) a sharp decline in Active inventory trends as a result of the sustained strong sales pace starting from mid 2009, plus...
b) a sustained uptick in sales pace, plus...
c) months of sales seeing the most desirable and properly priced properties go to contract and close, plus...
d) progressive improvement in buy side confidence leading to even the most skeptical buyers seeing targeted properties go to contract...
January and February saw buyers scrambling to bid for whatever new and desirable property hit the market; and that was remotely close to being priced properly. As a result, multiple offers were being submitted on a much wider pool of properties at the same time - reported to you in late February. Brokers picked up on this change. My clients experienced at least six of these lost deals over those two months before securing their deals for a new property just listed on the market.
The data that shows this best is the sharp decline in both Listing Discount and Days on Market trends from Q4-2009 to Q1-2010; courtesy of Miller Samuel - View larger image:

History usually shows that these types of mini-euphorias, which I described as starting from an adjusted lower level from peak, don't last long. And I believe this to be true as of now. While the market continues to seem strong to me, its a bit "less frenzy-ish" than it was in February & March. Likely the result of rising inventory and a slight turn around in demand as many buyers already pulled the trigger and now await closing.
The Skinny: Followers of Manhattan real estate constantly ask for state of the market reports and naturally, the journalists out there go to the brokers for answers. I'd like to believe the brokers being interviewed are accurately reporting on what they are seeing; but of course can only trust myself and the colleagues I have learned to trust over the years as to what's going on out there. So when I see comments like, 'Broker's lies to make you jump in! Listen to them and you're dead!', and 'Brokers are liars!', I see how a simple article can be mis-interpreted.
The marketplace saw a confluence of forces that led to a hectic first few months of 2010; forces which took many months to embed into the mindsets of the buyer pool in this market. There are reasons why buyers get aggressive towards property newly listed or submit a 'gap up' offer when there are other known bids in. And it probably has something to do with what that buyer just went through for another property. This occurs at some level at all times in a healthy marketplace, but on occasion it affects the broader market across price points at the same time. I believe we just came out of one of those occasions.



Posted by idigress
Thu Apr 22nd, 2010 01:15 PM
sorry seems i'm always digressing! can you tell me how much more a terrace is worth in list price? i saw 2 apt's in same building, one with a terrace, the other without. The one without has a much larger 2nd bedroom - HUGE 2nd bedroom - 2 big master sized bedrooms basically - you can fit 2 kings in the bedrooms and a desk etc...in any case - I am just trying to understand the price difference with regard to the one with the terrace, it's more...etc.. Thanks!
Posted by Noah
Thu Apr 22nd, 2010 01:18 PM
same bldg?
Posted by Potential Buyer
Thu Apr 22nd, 2010 02:20 PM
I am a buyer and definitely noticed that the market has slowed a bit. I also agree that good properties that are priced properly are going fast and will have multiple bids (I won't know until the closings occur but I do not think that closing prices are going back to peak levels).
What I find frustrating is that a lot of the market is still overpriced and I noticed that many new listings are coming on very high. I think sellers are becoming overly confident by misinterpreting the market -- they think that since activity is up, properties are going to contract quickly and there are multiple bids on some properties, they think they can get close to peak prices again.
Posted by rlmnyc
Fri Apr 23rd, 2010 09:30 AM
Potential Buyer, I echo your sentiments. I'm so disgusted I don't want to go to open houses anymore (and then am drawn in like a crack addict). I'm constantly reminding myself that patience will be rewarded.
Posted by Noah
Fri Apr 23rd, 2010 10:13 AM
Potential Buyer - thx for comment. A while ago I discussed how It Takes Two To Tango, a post discussing the fear that sell side optimism was outpacing buy side confidence and may lead to another disconnect between buyer-seller.
http://www.urbandigs.com/2009/08/equity_rally_may_cause_disconn.html
I was dead wrong on timing of that post. The market has seen strong sales volume since that discussion but at some point, I promise you that premise will kick into gear. Maybe its starting now, who knows. Takes time to notice changes in this kind of market.
You are not alone. Many buyers out there feel the same way, but to me, to measure it is to admit that at all times there are buyers in the market that feel prices are out of whack/sellers overly confident and set to come down. The question is, is that pool of buyers growing or shrinking or remaining flat with time? How do you measure something that cant be measured? I look at sales volume/pace as the closest thing. So far, still strong to me.
Posted by anon
Sat Apr 24th, 2010 02:17 PM
Meanwhile inventory continues to creep up and up and up...
Isn't April supposed to be a peak month?
Posted by idigress
Mon Apr 26th, 2010 09:25 AM
Noah, sorry, I haven't revisited here apologies. Yes, the apartments are in the same bldg, one has a terrace, one doesn't. The one without the terrace is on a very high floor and the one with the terrace is about 8 floors beneath.
Posted by jd12
Mon Apr 26th, 2010 11:47 AM
Noah,
Interesting that you see it still strong as inventory creeps up.
Thanks,
Posted by Noah
Thu Apr 29th, 2010 07:19 AM
jd12 - been using my new analytics system for watching the markets lately..I know a bit unfair as nobody else can see it yet..but yes, market still strong. 78 contracts signed yesterday alone, 43 the day before. 1,073 contracts signed in last 30 days...still strong.
Posted by jd12
Thu Apr 29th, 2010 09:29 AM
holy moly, that is strong. wow. employment is improving too. I know there's alot of bears out there but substantively and psychologically things do seem much better.
Posted by Surfside Homes
Sat May 1st, 2010 01:30 AM
Thanks for the great post. I'll be more than happy to answer any questions or feedback your readers might have
Posted by links of london
Wed Jul 7th, 2010 02:24 AM
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Posted by coach handbags
Thu Aug 12th, 2010 10:09 PM
in any case - I am just trying to understand the price difference with regard to the one with the terrace, it's more...etc.. Thanks!