'Euro' Outta Here! Foreigners Lose Purchasing Power
A: Okay so my headline could be a bit better. The reason I have fewer real time reports from the field is that most of my clients that intended to purchase a new home, already have. I have nine deals done in the last two quarters, five of which sold and four of which are still pending. Currently I have two active negotiations ongoing with a third on its way. But my schedule is no where near as hectic as it was for the first three months of 2010. That means, I am not out there viewing property and submitting offers as actively as I was for the past 6-8 months or so - as many of my clients are aggressively looking for months before ultimately signing a contract for their new home. However, I thought it would be interesting to see how the dollar's rise might affect a foreigner who might be looking to buy in our market over the past few months. The findings may intrigue you.
Lets go back in time exactly 5 months: HOW HAS CURRENCY TRENDS AFFECTED PURCHASING POWER FOR BUYERS IN EUROZONE AND IN THE UK?
First Step: Put the currency moves into perspective! To do this, all you need is to show how much less house the Euro/Pound can now buy over here compared to only five months ago by doing some reverse math. How many US dollars could 1 Euro buy today compared to only five months ago? Here is a chart showing the decline in the Euro/Pound against our almighty US dollars (I cant believe I said almighty).

November 13th, 2009 - 1 EURO buys $1.4892 US dollars
April 13th, 2010 - 1 EURO buys $1.3571 US dollars (updated 10:15am)
Next Step: Take an example and convert the currency! Here is how the math works out for a buyer with say E1,000,000 (Euros) to convert to US dollars and buy real estate in Manhattan.
November 13th, 2009 (5 months ago) - E1,000,000 BUYS $1,489,200 worth of US real estate
April 13th, 2010 (today) - E1,000,000 BUYS $1,357,100 worth of US real estate
Based on currency trends over the past five months, look at how much less house an investor with Euros can buy right now of US assets - including Manhattan real estate! In this case, the foreign investor can buy $132,100 LESS HOUSE! All this because of the rising value of the US dollar! If it were British pounds and the same time period, the 1M pound investor would see a $124,000 reduction in purchasing power. All on currency trends alone.
Now, most will ask why I stopped short at five months? Did I cherry pick that time period? Why not go further back? Fine. If you want to go back two years ago, the EURO was at $1.5954 against the US Dollar and to compare to today would mean a 1M Euro-investor would lose more like $230,000 of purchasing power compared to where the dollar is today. A one year trend would show a slight increase in purchasing power to today's rates.
I stopped at five months because that is where the most recent dollar rally started and the move was noticeable and sustainable thus far. In other words, a trend could be in place and we should keep our eyes on if it continues. We are at now now and buyer psychology tends to absorb market forces over the very near term, say for the past few months both behind and what may lie ahead of us - markets are future discounting mechanisms and investors love to place bets on recent information and trends. Certainly buyer psychology is nothing like it was if we go further back in time, say 12 months or 18 months ago. Those fear days are looong gone. So here we are today, in the midst of a 4 1/2 month rally in the US dollar, and wondering how foreigners might be viewing our markets?
My opinion has to be that investors savvy enough to put money to work in foreign real estate markets certainly should have a pulse on currency trends; stronger dollar = less purchasing power of foreign investors. My next opinion would be that foreigners that already bought Manhattan property on currency trends alone, would be more willing to sell the investment now that the asset has risen in the local currency. If the current trend continues, both these opinions may start to mean something.
Brokers have a tendency to spin everything positive explaining how its always a good time to buy - typical of any commission based industry. Which is why I was stupefied by this MSNBC article in late March, "Foreign buyers return to Big Apple real estate: Dollar’s rally prompting some to jump in before property gets too pricey":
The dollar's recent rally, rather than putting off foreign buyers, is encouraging them to jump into the market before it rallies further and drives up prices, insiders say.Ummm, ok. So I guess the spin goes something like this:
"People are thinking it might run away from them because there are these predictions the dollar will even go further," said Richard Martin, specialist at DE Capital Mortgage. "We are talking a lot about foreign borrowers lately."
Manhattan property prices rally as US Dollar weakens and entices foreign demand
Manhattan property prices rally as US Dollar strengthens and foreigners fear runaway prices
Foreigners flock to US dollar based assets before its too late: Manhattan property benefits
Anyone else confused by this? Now Im not saying foreigners are fleeing our markets; that is to mis-interpret this discussion. The reality is the reflation trade mentality and boost in confidence as all asset classes benefit from a fed engineered carry trade environment, is in play both for local buyers and foreign buyers. Tons of money was made in the last 12 months and will be put to work in our market. What I'm saying is that the purchasing power of foreign dollars has declined noticeably in the last 4-5 months: and its worth a discussion!



Posted by anonymous
Tue Apr 13th, 2010 11:33 AM
I am interested in why you are slower now. Is it because most of your clients have bought, seasonality (nearing the end of the Spring season), or that pent up demand has been met?
I recall that you said several times in earlier posts that you did not see this uptick in sales activity which occurred from last Fall through Winter will sustain itself. Are we starting to see the slow down now?
I am curious since I believe that as we enter into summer, demand will weaken and there will be more price decreases.
Posted by anonymous
Tue Apr 13th, 2010 11:41 AM
I don't find it confusing but it is definitely twisting the buyer psychology to suit the facts for the benefit of sales. I think both the bargain scenario and runaway price scenario are plausible, although I'm skeptical on the latter.
What is important, but I never seen discussed, is what percentage of transactions are foreigners represented on either the buying or selling side. If they are a small part of the market, does it really matter?
Posted by Noah
Tue Apr 13th, 2010 11:47 AM
"What is important, but I never seen discussed, is what percentage of transactions are foreigners represented on either the buying or selling side. If they are a small part of the market, does it really matter?"
yea that is all I really would love to know too..when dollar was weak, the argument was that foreigners are flooding our markets and deepening our buyer pool and competition for local buyers. But is that quantifiable?
Not so sure how we can get a real good count on the exact depth of foreigners, but would love to analyze the data if it somehow became avail. I have a feeling it saw a nice bump above trend in 2005-2007, then a nice plunge to below trend in 2008-2009, and is likely around trend now. But what % of total sales is it?
Posted by Fred
Tue Apr 13th, 2010 01:19 PM
Maybe Janet Napolitano has that data set? Not. But should.
Posted by Noah
Tue Apr 13th, 2010 01:24 PM
anon 11:33am - I was hoping someone would ask me about that from that line in the intro.
I think this business is highly individual. I usually have around 15-18 buyer clients at any given time..I would say 5-8 of them are longer term clients that are passively looking around but with an intention to buy in 8-12 months or so. Another 5-6 are in early stages of looking but intend to buy and close in say a 3-6 month timeline. And another 5-6 are mixed with really motivated new buyers and then those older clients that were originally in the first batch, but now have reached their buy point.
For me, the last 7 or so bought, the other 2 were sell side deals in last 6-7 months. So for me, I am not really seeing the pace of new buyer interest reach out as it was the past 6-9 months. Maybe seasonal. Slowing down a bit perhaps, but it could be just my business not a market trend. I guess thats interesting. But then again, half my time goes to site dev and UD 2.0, so Im not writing or out there as much as I used to be these past few months
Its too early for me to call a change to the sustained solid sales pace..but Im looking for any change
Posted by SteveF
Tue Apr 13th, 2010 02:43 PM
Def. worthy of discussion Noah. As every apt seller loves that foreigner with his/her wallet full of cash. No banks and no headaches. I think more media attention s/b allocated towards the foreign buyers and the exchange rate effect.Good stuff. Thanks. Once again you're ahead of the game.
SteveF
Posted by Thisson
Tue Apr 13th, 2010 05:26 PM
Noah,
Are you still reading Rosenberg? His column this morning states that housing is still trending down:
"It's amazing how many people believe that home prices are stabilizing in the United States when there is so much evidence to the contrary. The FHGA price index is down two months in a row. Ditto for the LoanPerformance house price survey. The Radar Logic 25 MSA price index has deflated now for three months running. The key Case-Shiller index has yet to decline but that is only due to the generosity offered by the seasonal factors...."
Posted by Fred
Wed Apr 14th, 2010 09:23 AM
Thisson - I tend to think that macro observations fall to the wayside here, despite being glaringly prescient. Present trends that argue against further appreciation and you get an earful of 'yes but NYC is different'. Argue that given the dismal state of employment in Manhattan, and you get 'yes but external demand will fill the gaps, because NYC is different'.
What is pretty clear is that we had a blip in transaction volume last summer which has receded as quickly as it came. Job growth here is still opaque at best. Albany won't be able to cut through the political interests in order to balance the budget and they'll do what they always do: raise the marginal tax rate and probably raise property taxes. The latter is probably more likely than the former in truth. They could also increase the transaction tax associated with real estate, but what we know is that equity will be forced to pay up.
One general comment about the elusive foreign buyer. Like most purchasers prior to 2007, foreigners were not cash buyers as many seem to think. The reason why foreigners started buying was in large part due to the availability of the same financing terms that allowed a $250k salary to finance a couple of million in mortgage debt. That financing is gone.
Posted by Potential Buyer
Wed Apr 14th, 2010 01:51 PM
Noah,
I am really curious to know if there is a slowdown in the buying pace. I know that you said in a few posts that you believed the last 6 months of increased sales activity was not sustainable.
Also, I noticed that a lot of new inventory is coming on at realtively high prices (2007 prices).
I am curious to know if they will be getting these prices. I don't understand why anyone would overpay in this market.
Are your buyers who bought paying 2007 level prices?
Posted by Noah
Wed Apr 14th, 2010 02:14 PM
potential buyer - for me there is, but it is more individual I think. Brokers I talk to that I trust tell me its still very active out there, yet not as frenzy-ish as it was the first 3 months of year when inventory was tighter and more buyers scrambled to sign contracts.
I described that as a mini euphoria from an adjusted lower level and I did not think it would last. Its not that it rolled over or anything, but it did seem to peak out in mid March to me and now its just good old fashioned active out there...normal for this time of year, not crazy, not slow.
Posted by Thisson
Wed Apr 14th, 2010 02:59 PM
This is a must-read:
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2010/04/13/1373260/bofa-to-detail-loan-aid-before.html
Bank of America has over 250,000 customers who have not made a mortgage payment in over a year:
“Almost 500,000 struggling loan customers have not supplied information or taken other basic steps to qualify for mortgage help. About half of them have not made a payment for more than a year, or owe more than 50 percent of the value of their homes.”
This is not a recovery. It is a lack of recognition about how severe the problem is. Banks are being allowed to let people live for free in their homes for over a year without acknowledging that the mortgages and 2nd mortgages are total losses. The problem is, whether acknowledged or not, these mortgages that are unpaid are not generating cash flows. It is simply a matter of time before the lack of cash causes these banks to be forced into insolvency because they still have to pay out salaries, rents, taxes, etc. Once those write-offs start to happen, we are in 2007 all over again.
Posted by anonymous
Wed Apr 14th, 2010 03:24 PM
calm down tough guy. BofA is too big to fail.
Posted by gretta
Wed Apr 14th, 2010 03:49 PM
THOSE FOREIGNERS!!!
Would be crazy to put money in Manhattan RE at this time. especially all cash.this is a bear market thet will have some ways to go.
those so rich foreigners are mostly a myth anyway (except for a minute number of bankers/fraudsters type).
Posted by Thisson
Wed Apr 14th, 2010 04:58 PM
There is no such thing as too big to fail. It's an orwellian misnomer. Just give it time.
Posted by Nick
Sat Apr 17th, 2010 02:28 PM
Do foreign buyers make their loan payments in Euros or US$ ? I would think that those paying in US$ are feeling a lot of pain and it will get worse.
Posted by anonymous
Mon Apr 19th, 2010 04:16 PM
I'm a euro national. I've lived in NYC for a year now and have continuously looked at the market to see if it was worth buying. Well, today, the answer is clearly NO. Why is that:
- given the state of the US economy compared to that of Continental Europe, I believe the USD will devaluate against Euro over the next few years,
- even if you do not agree with this first reason, there are many others : maintenance and tax is about 5 (!) times higer in NYC than in Paris for example ; the coop structure is a huge hindrance and represents 80 % of the market ; if you wanted to mitigate your Forex risk by borrowing part of the sum in USD, then you face interest rates around 6% which is more than the 4 % you'll get in Continental Europe, etc, etc.
Comments with similar experience welcome !
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Posted by coach handbags
Thu Aug 12th, 2010 10:07 PM
I recall that you said several times in earlier posts that you did not see this uptick in sales activity which occurred from last Fall through Winter will sustain itself