A: People seem to forget that about 8 months ago I started to change my tone a bit now that the adjustment process started. It was back in November that I made my first statement about being "less bearish", and wrote..."This might surprise many, but I am a bit less bearish than I was 12 months ago when we were near peak levels...Today, a noticeable adjustment has occurred and the pendulum has clearly swung in favor of buyers". Recall that when I made that statement, this market was still frozen from the shock of the Lehman bankruptcy and government rescue of AIG. What took us so long to roll over still confuses me, but markets have a tendency of surprising us sometimes. Longtime UD readers know how bearish I was in late 2007 when equities were near record levels and trades in Manhattan were at peak levels. So to hear me start to talk about being "less bearish", should tell you something. I will always strive to keep it real, even if the market behaves in a way that is inconsistent with my general feelings about macro fundamentals and the new, less sexy world we are in. Ultimately, the markets are bigger than any of us!
That wasn't the only time I talked about being less bearish OR that a pickup in activity has occurred in our local marketplace. Here, take a look:
FEB 3rd - "I'm less bearish today because the process is happening, as a year and half ago I was way more more bearish than I am today. And as time goes on, I will probably become even less bearish."
April 2nd - "I'm way less bearish today than I was 12 months ago now that the process has started and equities have adjusted. All I know is that the process is taking place at great speeds, and I would not be surprised to see the bulk of the adjustment complete by this time next year."
April 16th - "Its hard to argue these forces although I am way less bearish today than I was only a year ago on Manhattan real estate because the process is happening. It must happen. It will happen. And we will get through it! This leads me to believe that at some point in the next few quarters you will see a bunch of quality Classic 6s, 7s, and 8s, looking mighty attractive!"
May 19th - "I was quite bearish for very real reasons 18 months ago, and now I am way less bearish than I was because the process started; but we still have a ways to go before a solid foundation can be built to sustain a recovery. Right now, I would update my 'muddled L' recovery to look more like a muted 'W' recovery with the final growth spurt a big question mark and more of a muddled stabilization for a while. It seems Keynesian stimulus will have its moment, although it will be temporary."
Enough of that, as you should get the point. But I took it further. I started to discuss the pickup in action from the frozen 4th quarter as early as late January, but was too unsure to call it anything other than a relative anecdotal pickup from a very frozen 4th quarter. Real estate is seasonal, and when we compare the first half of 2009 to previous first halves you will likely see the number of sales on the sluggish side. Month to month pickups can be misleading.
Moving on. As buyer interest gathered steam, I decided to call it a 'countertrend pickup in activity embedded in a longer term correction process', and I will stand by that call even today. I even went as far to devote a post to the surge in contracts being signed about two weeks ago, asking people whether they are noticing their Streeteasy saved searches going into contract.
But there is a big difference between a countertrend pickup in activity embedded in a longer term correction and a new, sustainable recovery for Manhattan home prices. This is where you will see me differ from others. Deals still seem to be happening in the comfort zone reached after the first wave down - a move down almost all brokers and executives either didnt see coming or thought impossible (my E 87th property went into contract over ask after being priced about 30% below peak levels - proof that markets dictate price, not brokers)! If anything, accuse me of being extremely bearish on Manhattan real estate in late 2007 and being less bearish starting in late 2008 when the adjustment occurred.
Fact is, there are many bids coming in and there are plenty of deals being signed. The pace of deals happening seems to be accelerating with the ongoing rally in equities - in other words, most of the action has occurred in the last 6-8 weeks or so. Inventory is coming in as a result right as we enter a time when new listings tend to decline with sales volume for the slower summer months - except sales volume isn't declining, its accelerating. Take a look at a chart comparing new listings to a weekly average of contracts signed and you can see what I mean (courtesy of UD charts):

In my opinion, the boost in buy side confidence is due to a few factors that I will list in order of what I feel is priority:
1) first wave down to comfort zone - definitely the most important. Tiered structure of correction due to nature of this recession with sharpest adjustment in high end and slightest adjustment in studio market
2) equity rally - the S&P is up about 40% in the past 12 weeks and that is boosting confidence; remember, the stock market is the stars and the most widely used gauge as to the overall health of our economy. The banks raised a ton of money, and the fed engineered the system to make banks profits soar. But a) will it last and b) what about higher quality debt classes still on and off balance sheets?
3) reflation trade - rates, stocks, commodities are all rising at the same time as a reflation trade is in place from massive fiscal/monetary stimulus. Many like to be in real estate to protect them from massive inflation and a devaluation of our currency. Time will tell if wage inflation and job growth occurs as onset of inflation hits.
4) rates - the combination of lower prices, confidence boost from equity rally, reflation trade, and possibility of higher rates is making many feel more comfortable to pull trigger to lock in price and low borrowing costs. Its very possible the next wave down is a result of another round of severe illiquidity because lending rates are significantly higher than what we got used to over the past 5-6 years.
Know that markets do not move in a straight line and there will be deals at every price. Real estate in general is very illiquid and even with the big uptick in action, some units are having trouble selling. And the most important thing people need to realize, is that deals are happening in the range that I discussed previously! It's not like you are seeing a sudden surge in the aggressiveness of bids with deals happening closer to peak levels. So don't mis-interpret this piece. We reached a comfort zone, prices came down, and because of the 4 forces I just discussed, confidence is up and bids are coming in! Its as if the wall street bonus season that is supposed to be active (we forget that this time of year is the busiest time of year for us), is on a 2 month delay. Rather than being JAN - MAY, its like the action really was from MARCH - present, and ongoing. I would not be surprised to see this action last a bit longer than normal, and continue until the end of June.
But make no mistake about it, this economy is still hurting big time, macro fundamentals are still pressured, and if the stock market decides to sell off again you will see the recent boost in buyer confidence slip away for a while until equilibrium is once again achieved by natural market forces. No one can predict exact bottoms and real estate is a very individual decision. There will be a time to talk about a sustainable recovery based on positive fundamentals, but for now, the best I can get myself to do is be less bearish than I was at peak. Whether or not another wave down comes is something I cant conclusively answer, but my gut is telling me we will have one. Plus, we are about to get some price discovery about where high end deals are happening at, and I think that will surprise many! Given the surge in activity from the dead 4th quarter, perhaps some deals are happening at the lower end of the pyramid range I discussed here before for each price point. Time will tell. For now, I still worry about higher rates, higher taxes, rising unemployment and other unintended consequences that come from a major earthquake like the crisis we just went through. Its hard not to expect a few aftershocks!
A: This was so entertaining to watch today. Lets try to have an intelligent discussion on this topic, a topic that I have touched on here a few times already - including my thoughts on the excessive printing and the gold trade. Jim Rogers on CNBC late this afternoon battled it out with Cantor Fitzgerald CEO Howard Lutnick, and it was great. Watch both videos as this is uber important for endgame to this crisis and involves all of us and can ultimately affect Manhattan real estate!
"They are printing so much money, I have no shorts on...stocks can go to 20,000 or 30,000, but of course it would be worthless money...commodities will be the best place to be. The US dollar is a terribly flawed currency." - Jim Rogers

The above video is the beginning of the fun. The real action started when Larry Kudlow and Howard Lutnick chimed in about the treasury bond outlook. It was awesome! Basically Kudlow agreed with Rogers that treasuries are a great short, and will rollover causing higher rates for all of us as a result of fed actions, policy, and government borrowings to stem this crisis. Lutnick argued that Rogers is about '4 years early' on that trade and that the commercial real estate problem and the leveraged buyout problem (2006 deals) is far worse than anyone right now is willing to admit. Lutnick believes this to be a 2011 and 2012 problem, causing major problems for banks and the economy - as a result the flight to safety will CONSTRAIN the treasury market from rolling over as the 'fear factor' kicks in again. When Rogers asked why investors would buy trillions of government bonds over the next few years, Lutnick responded...'because you get your money back'. Kudlow responded by saying.."why anyone would want to buy treasury bonds right now is utterly beyond me!"
It was awesome. Here is the real action:

Lutnick's argument about treasury bonds being constrained by what I described as WAVE 2 of this crisis, is very interesting. I'm not sure I buy it, but its interesting. Lutnick says this will hit us in 2-3 years, I thought it would be earlier.
Your thoughts? Who is right - Kudlow/Rogers or Lutnick?