Ginormous Stimulus = Ginormous Rally

The Fed, ECB, Bank of England, Swiss National Bank and BoJ plan to pump $180 billion into the world financial system. That on top of the more than $230 billion pumped into various markets by central banks so far this week (not to mention the massive bailout fund apparently being worked on by Congress, the Fed and the Treasury department). Amazingly (tongue firmly implanted in cheek), some of this money managed to get into the stock market. Hmmmmm! Let's flash back to the early 1990s. The banking system is on the ropes; many graybeards who were in the markets then will tell you that most of the major banks were bankrupt (on a mark-to-market basis). There were no loans being made. The fed lowered rates like crazy and held them there, and still banks really weren't able to lend. In fact, this is when and why the Commercial CMBS market was born (some good background info here). The lower interest rates could not be transmitted as increased money supply to the economy due to the banks acting as bottlenecks. There were, however, two key ways that lower rates were able to help the economy. The steep yield curve allowed banks to borrow from Uncle Sam at low rates at one window and walk around to the back door and lend the government back the money at a high rate. After a couple of years bank balance sheets were in better shape and they could start to lend again. The second and more immediate impact from lower rates was a huge refi wave. Rates hadn't been this low since the sixties and people took advantage of this to lower their interest costs.
Back to present day. We all know that banks aren't lending, and I can tell you from my own business that banks continue to back away from more areas of lending. First it was construction loans, non-recourse loans even for investment properties, and now it's commercial property loans (I'm generalizing, as we can still find some willing to lend, but it's a trend).
Unfortunately, there is very little consumer refi opportunity. Anyone who wanted to refi a mortgage on a property they have owned for a long time, and have decent equity in, was able to do so after the dot com collapse when 30-year fixed mortgage rates got down into the low fives and briefly into the high fours (if I remember correctly). With plummeting residential real estate prices and stricter lending standards, putting lots of cash in consumer pockets through refis is unlikely. Eventually, there may be an opportunity for commercial building refis as banks who will lend can earn unbelievable spreads vs. their cost of funds. (Many loans made in recent years were for five-year terms and will be up for refi in the next couple of years anyway.) Many of the loans outstanding today are variable rate and keyed to LIBOR. If the world's central banks can figure out how to wrestle LIBOR lower it would also help cash flows of companies and individuals.
Come to think of it in the case of the early 1990s, there was one more place where the creation of money manifested itself and that was ........the stock market. The wealth effect of a stock market fueled by lower rates and P/E multiple expansion, eventually helped corporate earnings and household wealth expand too.
I don't know where all the money being sprayed around the world financial system will go, but it will end up somewhere. We know much of it will be destroyed over the next few years as bad debts melt it away. With most of the transmission mechanisms for getting money into the economy broken, a ban on short sales in the offing and massive liquidity being pumped out, it's possible that some of it could find its way into stock markets, which might respond with a mystical levitation act. (Of course gold levitated too, proving you can fool most of the people all of the time, but there will always be some gold bugs who know the dollar is really worthless.)
It just gets weirder and weirder.



Posted by 809 FICO
Thu Sep 18th, 2008 11:57 PM
Actually, it wasn't the coordinated central bank actions that sparked the rally. It was the news that Paulson et al were working on an RTC-type entity to off-load all the toxic waste off the banks' balance sheets. The $160BN in added liquidity actually had little effect on the market.
Posted by brenda
Fri Sep 19th, 2008 06:37 AM
It's my understanding that with an RTCII-type plan (not Schumer's crazy-ass inject money freely plan) the gov would pay fair-market value for toxic assets thereby removing them from the books of financial companies. Two issues, who the hell can accurately determine the fmv of this crap? And, it seems to me a Bush administration system-wide bailout of "those bastards who killed our economy" would be deadly for McCain, regardless of who votes for it in Congress (as an Obama supporter, that's not so bad for me, I just wonder the likelihood of it happening in time to save those facing imminent doom).
Posted by Anon
Fri Sep 19th, 2008 08:22 AM
Agreed that the rally is related to the comprehensive bailout plan being discussed not the capital infusion.
Look, I HATE bailouts, socialization of losses, Barney Frank, etc., but this may be necessary.
Why? Well, if the package is to save banks that would have inevitably failed, then we are saving ourselves the pain and $ of having to fund a bankrupt FDIC. And it doesn't stop there - politically we'd then have to insure deposits for small businesses even in excess of $100K. Hell, there's even talk today of the govt insuring money market funds.
And let's face it, the exhaustion and subsequent need to shore up the FDIC coupled with the mere phenomenon of hundreds of failed banks would have not only been devastating for the economy, dollar, confidence, etc, but would have required an even messier and possibly costlier cleanup.
I guess I'm just resigned to the fact that the taxpayers now are paying for the poor judgment of so many.
Posted by jeff
Fri Sep 19th, 2008 08:33 AM
I guess I should have been less literal about the liquidity injection as a causal link to the market rise. Of course it was the idea that the government is going to do a massive bailout of the entire system and ban short selling that was the key catalyst....most people don't pay attention to what central banks do in the interbank market. What I was really trying to point out is that all the stimulus being pumped into the system will manifest itself somewhere.....as an investor I wonder where that will be. It may be gold prices or the stock market, I don't think it will be bank loans. But I just saw a brilliant Op Ed piece by an ex FDIC guy saying we should suspend mark-to-market accounting instead of doing all this stimulus and building a new government bureaucracy to take hold of the assets. Bring that on and we might see bank loans loosen up.
Posted by Colgin
Fri Sep 19th, 2008 10:48 AM
Welcome to the USSRA (Union of Soviet Socialist Republic of America).
Here are the logical steps:
1. Ban short selling of financials.
2. Ban selling of financials (even if you own shares).
3. Require those with brokerage accounts to commit x% of their portfolio to financial stocks.
4. If all else fails, have the U.S. government be a buyer of last resort of financial stocks to ensure that floor prices hold.
I would like the Treasury to release the official government “fair” values for financial stocks to be maintained at all costs so I can know whether or not it is still safe to participate in today’s rally.
Posted by Anon
Fri Sep 19th, 2008 12:28 PM
It really is amazing. The U.S. government has effectively said it will put its full financial werewithal on the table to backstop this problem.
And the markets rally - all the way back to last Friday's levels.
I don't know whether to laugh or cry.
Posted by jeff
Fri Sep 19th, 2008 03:04 PM
Colgin,
I agree that this is a total subjugation of market forces and a rig. It's disgusting that we have gotten to this point. But there literaly was a run on banks....except it was money market funds at Putnam and BONY rather than traditional bank deposits. Uncle Sam ain't gonna let that happen particularly in an election year. I go back to this idea of just switching back to the old loan accounting rather than than mark to market as a way to stop the runaway train instead of nationalizing the bad debt. All of us financial market professionals have always known that banks and insurance cos. were black boxes. You just can't know what the risks in these portfolios are, you have to trust that management and the regulators (this is who should be fired not the SEC) would make sure capital levels were adequate. Loans are marked based on whether they are paying interest and principal or not. This system worked relatively well for a long time, and I know losses from subprime and other aggressive lending would have toppled some institutions, but there would be much more time to deal with it and liquidity premiums would not have gone crazy if the process was just spread out a little. Unlike Japan, I do believe that ultimately bad loans would be liquidated and the system would be properly cleansed.
Posted by Stock Trader
Fri Sep 19th, 2008 05:08 PM
I think the most poignant point you made was that this money that is being spread all over has to end up somewhere. And chances are that it will end up right back in our economy. Times are bad now, but they will eventually get better.
Posted by brenda
Fri Sep 19th, 2008 08:03 PM
Stock trader - the money will end up back in our economy, but doing what? There is no more domestic consumer to purchase any products made, foreign consumers are looking rather pained as well. When you create wealth inequality as great as this, you also inhibit investment possibilities. If you build it, make it, design it, you need someone to buy it.
Thinking about it, this seems to be simply an extension of what the Fed has already been doing, but formalized. The Fed is running out of money, the FDIC clearly may not be able to handle bank failures, the Fed and the Treasury decided to get the mechanism in place so that the money is available as needed. This is NOT good news, for the economy, the banks, or main street. But it may prevent a run on some banks/money market funds.
Posted by Prague-Noah
Sat Sep 20th, 2008 06:24 AM
im out of the loop, being in magical prague (which is more than fine), but a RTC-like move AFTER allowing some carnage, in my opinion is necessary. It is crisis management. Lesser of two evils, and I too hate bailouts, moral hazard, and manipulations/rigging, as you all know by now.
The next section of this mess, will be the global big failures, I think, unless all this coordination actually works..PS, havenet checked net in two days so Im still behind
Posted by praguenoah
Sun Sep 21st, 2008 03:09 PM
love the gold bugs line...zou know i am, for at least the time being. likelz will change mid 2009