Fed 'Engineering' Lehman Sale This Weekend
A: I didn't know the fed's mandate was too orchestrate and engineer deals? Did you? Oh well, I guess it fits under the criteria of price stability, as in, stock prices will get killed if Lehman fails!
Not on vacation yet and Lehman's funeral service has already been announced. Well, ok, not a funeral service, but close. I believe Lehman has about 20,000 employees (verification?), who were on the receiving end of about $9,500,000,000 of bonuses last year! Today, Lehman could not find a buyer on its own or raise billions in capital, and so, the fed/treasury will have to facilitate a sale so as to avoid counterparty disruptions, financial instability, and risk of a systemic crisis in our system. Ain't deleveraging a bitch!
Its a very sad story and final chapter for this very old firm. The result of this will be tons of lost wealth, mainly held by LEH shareholders and employees who own stock options, and a likely shedding of half the work force. It's amazing that it appears a combination of a few firms will have to work together to buyout the firm. Very telling of the severity of this credit crisis, deflation, toxic assets, and the environment in general. Geez, who would have though that leveraging 30:1 could have such horrible ramifications?
I spoke about Lehman's problems on this site for about 10-12 months now, so it should be no shock to those who 'get it' and read this site. For those out there keeping their head in the sand, or choosing to view the bright side because doom & gloom ain't their cup of tea, it's time you wake up to the reality that this is the worst credit crisis since the great depression! More bailouts to come and the next Big 3 in my view are WaMu, Merrill, and Wachovia.
The markets have become 'used to' bailouts these days and I just don't see how this is a good thing. At some point, the markets will be forced to handle shocks on their own. For individual stories, I'm sorry, but I just can't feel sorry for someone who earned a million dollar bonus, on top of a very high six figure salary, who now finds their stocks options worthless and job at risk. This is what comes with playing the big games on wall street with the big firms, earning the big salaries. I'm not saying you deserve it, I'm saying this is the risk that comes with high reward if your firm is on the wrong side of bets in a very tough environment. As I said in January in my piece, "Bonuses: It's 2009 That Will Hurt More" :
"The derivatives trade of securitizing loans and selling them off in pieces on the secondary mortgage markets generated billions in revenue for these banks & brokerages. Now that the housing bubble popped nationally, risk has been re-priced, secondary mortgage markets are not functioning properly, liquidity dried up for mortgage backed securities, and the announcement of billions in losses and potential insolvencies, THE GAME IS OVER! How will these banks and brokerages generate the kind of revenue that they got used to generating the past few years? "Put yourself back into time & place when I stated this; Bear was still alive & Lehman stock price was trading at $62! I knew the revenue model going forward for wall street firms was broken, and that toxic assets would ultimately cause tons of pain for the big firms. One of the reasons Lehman got in trouble, outside of their highly toxic holdings, was their future prospects for generating revenue! This is a wall street problem for many firms, and we have not even seen any regulation yet resulting from government intervention; trust me, its coming. Wall street will have to wait to see how the industry is regulated, to devise a new financial innovation to replace the securitization model of bundle, re-rate, and sell that is all but dead. I just don't see how things will ever go back to the way they used to be after this credit bust cycle.
For 2009 wall street bonuses, I would expect them to be down about 50% from 2008 levels. OK, now Im off!



Posted by Trader
Fri Sep 12th, 2008 09:52 AM
AIG is next. More bad news for NYC.
Posted by brenda
Fri Sep 12th, 2008 10:42 AM
what about citi? that could take a bite.
Posted by Noah
Fri Sep 12th, 2008 11:00 AM
Citi has prob the worst balance sheet, and scary off balance sheet assets. However, I just dont see how the fed/treasury will allow Citi to get to the point that Leh/bear did.
Call me crazy, but I think its very possible there is some stealth deal going on under the scenes to help Citi's position. Im not paranoid, and I am not betting on this or changing my life thinking this way, but I think it strange how quiet things around citi have been considering their holdings
Posted by AvnerUWS
Fri Sep 12th, 2008 11:50 AM
Whether Citi is bailed out or not they will still have to find ways to generate revenues (read "capital") even if they were to be bailed out. The corresponding job losses still won't be good for NYC.
Posted by brenda
Fri Sep 12th, 2008 03:06 PM
Noah, I agree with you, it's been eerily quiet (other than that cost-cutting memo) on the Citi front recently. I also agree that they're too big to fail. I seem to recall that MS had awful tier 3 ratios also, and we've heard next to nothing about them.
Strategically, it may become decent strategy for some of the companies to start tanking sooner rather than later because it seems as though the funds may dry up. Sort of like getting a scary mortgage while the product is still available.
Posted by Anon
Fri Sep 12th, 2008 03:11 PM
Not everyone who got laid off had 6 figure salaries and millions in bonuses/options. Not everyone who got laid off was even responsible for the mess. A good friend of mine was just laid off - working there for a year and a half, fresh out of college. He didn't cause the mess, didn't profit off it, but is getting the short end of the stick now.
Posted by It All Ends In Tears
Fri Sep 12th, 2008 04:03 PM
"For those out there keeping their head in the sand, or choosing to view the bright side because doom & gloom ain't their cup of tea, it's time you wake up to the reality that this is the worst credit crisis since the great depression!" Are you referring to Toes?
Posted by Michael Oliver
Sat Sep 13th, 2008 03:15 PM
Yes is does seem like the fed's biggest job is to come up with rescue plans for the large banks these days......Until real estate starts to show signs that it is strengthening it will be par for the course for some time to come.
Posted by Chris
Sat Sep 13th, 2008 07:04 PM
Well - that's what I said in my post here on Sept 10th. LEH will be sold for $1/share this weekend ... I am nowrevising my estimate downward. Two hedge funds that I am invested in, i.e. Harbinger and Paulson Partners had massive shorts on Lehman and on WaMu. I'm sure this will be a great month for these funds.
On the issue of 'who is next'. Dozens of regional banks will fail, creating attractive short selling opportunities. If you want, you can do your analysis on which regional banks will be MOST hurt by the Fannie Mae / Freddie Mac bailout - regional banks that massively bought the pre-bailout preferred shares tgaht are now crammed down by the bailout. Names of regional banks that come to mind are Zions Bancorporation (ZION) and Banco Popular (BPOP). The latter, in particular is a real disaster and should fail fairly soon.
Posted by Donald
Sat Sep 13th, 2008 09:48 PM
No, not WaMu!!! That's where I have my life savings! Is it time to deposit my money in the mattress? Yes, I know my money is FDIC insured, but isn't the FDIC going to soon run out of money? Once the FDIC goes bankrupt after seizing all of these banks, are they going to seize themselves?
Posted by Prague-Noah
Sun Sep 14th, 2008 05:00 AM
anon - that sucks, itreally does. Please dont interpret what I said there as meaning they deserve it, they certainly dont. Know this, Lehman rewarded loyalty and I know that many had bonuses restricted in multi year options. Think of the guy that had to wait 5 years to sell those options. That sucks. They didnt cause it, like you said, but now they will likely lose almost all of it. Its sad. But this is what comes with this type of compensation in this industry, at a time LIKE THIS.
Blame the executives I guess and risk management. In real estate, over my 4+ years now, multiple times that I spent 8-10 months working with high end buyers that never bought, hundreds of wasted hours. It sucks, but I chose my profession and that is part of the game. I have to learn to know who to work with, or else I wont make enough dough to live. For wall streeters, I think going forward many employees will rather get their bonuses in cash or other form that is not locked up or at risk should the firm need to be rescued like Bear and now Lehman. But those that dont, certainly should understand the risk that comes with possible high reward.
Enjoy all. Im with the in laws drinking like there is no tomorrow. Man these Czechs drink, at least my wifes family does. I had to relearn what 10 plzens does to me
Posted by anonymous
Sun Sep 14th, 2008 04:02 PM
Being reported that Bofa and Barclays pulled out. Lehman facing bankruptcy... unless gov't steps up to offer guarantees at last minute? Scary.
Posted by Lehman RIP
Sun Sep 14th, 2008 06:32 PM
I'd really love to see the real estate bulls try to spin this in a positive tone. How do you like your $2-million-dollar, no-view, retarded-layout, in-need-of-renovation cookie-cutter now?
Posted by brenda
Sun Sep 14th, 2008 08:17 PM
Noah - you picked a fine time to go on vacation. LEH bankrupt, MER (rumor) joining Countrywide at BofA, and reports that AIG is looking to raise, holy shit batman, $50 billion. Chicken Little might have something here.
Posted by uwsider
Sun Sep 14th, 2008 08:42 PM
Dolly Lenz RE BULL Number 1 on Bear Stearns:
I wonder what line she will using about Lehman.. MMmmmm
Dolly Lenz..
"A lot of this has already been factored into the market. I think we're going to be perfectly OK, if not possibly better off."
http://curbed.com/archives/2008/03/17/bear_stearns_fallout_dolly_speaks.php
Posted by Falling Knife
Sun Sep 14th, 2008 09:05 PM
Dolly Lenz: "Ruh-Roh!"
Posted by Eric
Sun Sep 14th, 2008 10:34 PM
It is ironic and sad that this weekend's events immediately follow the post about "NY Real Estate: The Sky Isn't Falling".
The sky may not be falling, but it is certainly raining pretty damn hard. 3 of the cities largest and most important employers are now going out of business or being seriously downsized. Those financial institutions that are surviving, are doing very little business.
In the last tax year, proceeds from those employed by the financial sector accounting for 30% of the cities tax revenues. That seems a good proxy to think that 30% of the income of this city last year were from this sector where the sky is truly falling.
So how does anyone make the argument that this will not seriously affect NY real estate property. I think we are going to see a very large headwind in New York real estate, and almost certain to now see real declines in the astronomical prices that have been recorded in recent years. Thinking that real estate here will stay flat when many of the most important buyers have just been destroyed is completely foolish. NY typically lags the rest of the country, and it would not be at all surprising to see double digit declines here as these events play out.
Certainly it is surprising to see people post that things are fine in the face of these events. Nobody can really say things are fine with a straight face.
Posted by Chris
Sun Sep 14th, 2008 11:09 PM
"The sky is not falling' is what somebody posted recently on this blog. I suggest Ms Christine Toes learn to develop a personality, or resort to selling fried fish in the future.
Posted by prague-noah
Mon Sep 15th, 2008 06:54 AM
holy shit is right! damn. good thing i have 10 min to check internet here on a cold rainy day. so lehman bankrupt, merrill bought, and aig in trouble. i see futures are down about 45, and 350 for dow. glad i got gold.
truly historic times. things are certainly not fine. i wonder if we will get the event rate cut with news on lehman failure, and futures down so much. hopefully not, let the markets digest it and trade out.
credit defualt swap exposure is going to be headline news for this now, and will really hurt those who wrote the other side of the trade.
unbelievable! For those that emailed me to stop writing about the credit crisis and start writing about manhattan real estate again, do you see why now? I wish i can trade the markets today, doh!!!
Posted by Anon
Mon Sep 15th, 2008 09:24 AM
Even gold is standing relatively still. Bloom appears to be off the rose for all safe havens.
Posted by Nobi
Mon Sep 15th, 2008 09:28 AM
I'm totally cool with your writing. But the new listings seem like they are growing exponentially. I guess the brokers and sellers ARE back from summer break!
How do you think the European banks are doing? We're moving towards this "international" accounting standard, and its looser than USGAAP.
Posted by Mark
Mon Sep 15th, 2008 11:15 AM
Unbelievable news. I agree with the poster regarding impact on NY real estate. I was at some open houses this Sunday and sellers/brokers are still demanding high prices. I think that over the next several weeks it will sink in that NYC is not immune. Amazing how people forget the early 90s. I think that before this weekend's news brokers and sellers were thinking that the Fall season will how steady - now that looks doubtful.
Posted by Jose R
Mon Sep 15th, 2008 01:15 PM
The Federal Reserve is now accepting equities as collateral.
This is illegal as it is against its charter.
And:
"A bankruptcy filing by Lehman would be likely to cause thousands of job losses among the investment bank’s 25,000-strong staff. With lay-offs at many other Wall Street firms, and growing numbers of hedge funds making losses, bankers said they did not know where they would find new jobs.
'There are no jobs anywhere,' said one Lehman employee. 'I’m alright, because I have saved a lot of money, but I know people who are really going to be in trouble.'"
Posted by prague-noah
Tue Sep 16th, 2008 10:06 AM
sorry guys! site back now. thanks for all of you that emailed me about the problem.
i see wall street is a bit broken