New Dev Closings: A Potential Problem?

Posted by Noah Rosenblatt on October 9, 2007 at 12.57 PM

A: I want to discuss something that has NOT happened, is not even in the very near term horizon, but very well may impact the Manhattan marketplace at some point in 2008; buyers with expected new development closings amidst the new credit world. How may it impact our marketplace that has held up solidly in the face of a nationwide housing slump.

Why does this matter? Well...

The secondary mortgage markets (where rmbs, cdo's, cmo's are traded) exist to provide a market for lenders, banks, or specialized firms to sell existing holdings in order to free up capital for new loans. That secondary market is still seized up, although I'm hearing not as bad as it was a few months ago. Nevertheless, if investors are still not willing to buy these securities due to the changing risk associated with it, the lending world will continue to experience a drying up of liquidity resulting in tighter standards, fewer loan options, fewer lenders in general, and less $$$ to provide to the consumer via a home loan!
We still don't know how this will play out and I'll show you how I can tell these markets are still not functioning properly. First, look at this incomplete list of new developments that are awaiting their CofO so that they can start closing the deals:

NEW DEVS / CONVERSIONS COMING OCCUPANCY'S: 75 Wall St, Ariel East, Ariel West, 205 W 76th, Chelsea Stratus, 157 Hudson St, 215 W 88th, 517 W 46th, The Link, The Element, The Platinum, Sky House, 166 Perry, 200 West End Avenue, The Ansonia, Avonova, 10 West End Ave, 520 W 19th, 447 W 18th, 246 W 17th, 39 E 29th St, 459 W 18th, 225 E 74th St, The Lucida, The Brompton, 265 W 122nd, Chatham 44, The Laurel, The Stanhope, 300 E 79th St, 212 E 47th, 170 East End Ave, 1200 Fifth Ave, The Rushmore, The Avery, Linden78, 100 11th Avenue, SoHo Mews, Artisan Lofts, 45 John St, Tribeca Summit, 330 E 57th, 240 PAS, 225 E 34th, Gramercy Starck, 55 Wall St, 5 East 44th St, Park Avenue Place, Thorndale, Hit Factory, Cocoa Exchange, Kalahari Condo, Miraval Condo, 650 Sixth Avenue, The Clement Clarke, William Beaver House, BE@William, 80 John St, 106 W 116th St, and on and on...
*ran out of time. I couldn't check on every one of these and this isn't nearly close to the full list!

I don't need to explain why Manhattan real estate has held up (just read this, or this, or this), but I do like to discuss dynamics that may come into play down the road! Why? It's just more fun to me than to read a lagging quarterly report about what happened 3 months ago, thats why!

Since the credit squeeze made it to the surface (for the media that is) in mid July, there have been a number of adverse side effects as the investment world changed it's appetite for risk:

  • the secondary mortgage markets siezed up; hence the tightening of lending standards, fewer loan options, bankrupt lenders, and rising loan rates

  • asset backed commercial paper market dried up, although there have been signs of life of late

  • equities markets experienced a short term blip; and a great recovery response thanks to the fed

  • fed did its job to inject liquidity to help normalize the credit markets; the fed moved aggressively with monetary policy to prevent future economic shock at the expense of inflation in the pipeline

  • jumbo mortgage rates disconnected from other loan products
  • ...just to name a few. The psychological effect however is still lingering as in my mind I cannot understand how 4 years of ultra low rates and lax lending standards can be self-corrected in 3 months time; but hey, thats just me. That bolded items I listed above are what scares me.

    What no one wants to discuss is:

    WHAT ABOUT ALL THE BUYERS THAT SIGNED CONTRACTS ON EXPENSIVE NEW DEVELOPMENT PROPERTIES BEFORE THIS MESS HIT, AND WILL NOW CLOSE THEIR DEAL IN A LENDING ENVIRONMENT THAT IS TIGHTER & MORE EXPENSIVE?
    Will this become a problem? I don't know, but it's something I'm watching very carefully; are you?

    You can tell that the mortgage markets are still not functioning by the continued widening of spreads; in this case between Jumbo & Conforming loan rates. Thanks to Calculated Risk, I can see the disconnect in Jumbo Loan Rates (which is what a majority of new dev purchases will require to close) in relationship to the Conforming Loan Rates; notice the widening spread when the credit mess hit showing dysfunction in the market!

    jumbo-conforming-loan.jpg

    Whenever you see the spread disconnect this much from the norm, it is a sign of distress in that particular marketplace! We saw the same thing with yield premiums in the asset back commercial paper market as well when that seized up; I wrote about that back in my posts "Its a Risky New World: Credit Spreads" & "Markets Forcing The Fed Into Rate Cut":

    Credit spreads are widening as a result of all this. In other words, the difference between corporate bond yields and US government treasury yields are increasing as the risk associated with corporate paper rises! Relating this to the mortgage markets, while short and medium term US gov't treasury yields are falling fast due to a flight to quality as stock prices fall, the rates on mortgage products are NOT falling at the same pace! This is because mortgage debt is now MORE RISKY than treasury bond notes and therefore demands a HIGHER RISK PREMIUM to gather investors; i.e. higher yields. This is causing the spread between the two to widen.
    I know what you are saying, "stocks are at records, the fed is cutting rates, everything is wonderful and will always be wonderful, ahhhhhhh"...well, sure if you live in fantasyland. But we are not messing around on this site. We need to be critical of what is really going on in the world to understand WHY things happen that effect our local housing markets! Look at what Fannie Mae said about the continued distress in the Jumbo credit markets (via Weekly Commentary):
    "... lenders reported a lack of investor demand for high credit quality jumbo mortgages and other mortgages not eligible for agency purchase. This dislocation pushed the cost of prime jumbo financing significantly higher relative to rates on conforming loans.

    In mid-August this spread spiked to above 90 basis points after fluctuating between 15 and 25 basis points for the prior year-and-a-half (about equal to its historic spread). This spread has moderated somewhat over the past couple of weeks, however, and fell below 80 basis points in late September, suggesting some modest improvement in the market conditions for prime loans with balances above the conforming loan limit. Even so, the spread remains historically wide -- suggesting that the prime jumbo market remains in distress."

    Hmm, lets be creative here for a second. What happens to all those new development buyers that are currently in contract, waiting for building completion to close, if the jumbo credit markets continue to be in distress and there is a much different lending world than when the original contract was signed?

    What if the buyer doesn't have the doc's to get the commitment, if lending/underwriting standards have tightened so much in the past 3-6 months? What if the buyer gets a much higher interest rate than was originally anticipated? What if the bonus doesn't come in as expected? What if they lose their job? What if the property becomes unaffordable? What if the appraisal doesn't come in and you signed a contract without the financing contingency?

    While these are valid questions, they are also on the doomsday side and must be looked at with an open mind; after all, if it wasn't for new dev units we would have an extreme shortage of supply! This is a very wealthy city, with great salary's / bonuses and plenty of qualified demand. But with some 17,000 - 20,000+ units set to close in the next 1-2 years or so, questions should be raised given the change in the macro environment and re-pricing of risk in the mortgage markets!

    Strange how this topic has not been raised in the major media? Too negative maybe?


    Comments (15)

    oh oh today Noah is bearish on the market. Next week he may be bullish and the following week neutral only to be followed again by the following day being bullish until he thinks of a reason to be bearish. Why not just be bullish, bearish and neutral at the same time on all markets and you will right most of the time. The only thing that moves slower than your bullish bearish outlooks is the second hand of a time clock.

    Posted by Anonymous | October 9, 2007 1:13 PM

    wow, that was awesome! Thank you. Its nice to be a bull, bear, no wait, neutral...Nah, bearish.

    You are so right and you interpreted this post perfectly. Thanks for putting me in my place!

    Urbandigs is an idiot! Yea, he may have discussed the credit crunch, tighter lending standards, rising lending rates, weakening jobs data all well in advance, and provides reports on the changing manhattan marketplace so we investors can get an inside take on the market, but he doesn't know if hes bullish or bearish. What a chum!

    Posted by Noah | October 9, 2007 1:23 PM

    I would like to know what effect if any will the sticker lender standards have on the rental market. If less people can afford to put a larger down payment does that mean there will be more of a demand for the rental market thus higher rents. I don't think that coops which make up the majority of apts are viable rental options because they are extremely oppressive when it comes to owners being allowed to rent.

    Posted by Anonymous | October 9, 2007 1:38 PM

    Rentals are running their own game now. As you prob know, rents have been rising as sales have been rising and people have been priced out of buying.

    rents are up huge over the past 3 years. Two years ago a 1BR in doorman building was going for 2200-2400; now they are asking 3200-3600 or so. Almost 50%! Are you kidding me. I think rental rates have topped out and I see that mgmt companies are now offering incentives to move apt's. I just negotiated with my mgmt company to get rent down, and they agreed!

    I dont think lending standards will have any direct effect on rents. I think lack of demand and affordability at these high prices will have the effect! Its very pssible that both rents and sales prices correct a bit. Perfectly normal and healthy for longer term sustainable growth!

    Question is, will these renters turn away to neighborhing areas instead and take the cheaper deal?

    Posted by Noah | October 9, 2007 1:50 PM

    Noah,
    Yes your analysis on the spread between conforming and non conforming is important to Manhattan because unless you are putting a large deposit down you are jumbo. I think you present both sides of the equation for discussion not in a way like the individual above states.
    BTW I own condos in Clinton/Turtle Bay that I rent out and Country Wide called me late last week and was looking for some business. Well the loan officer took down my info, ran the credit, worked the numbers and walla I have a 90% LTV maybe even 95% LTV Heloc on my RENTAL! properties. The loan officer did state that 4 months ago she could have just ran my credit and we were done but now it's full disclosure time so we walked through the numbers Anyhow what do you think?

    Posted by Steve | October 9, 2007 2:33 PM

    If in fact more people are moving into the city and renters who wanted to buy now can't you may have a higher population of renters. These so call renters who can't buy will now want to stay put thus decreasing the availability if rental units. Prime rental season is May till Oct so time will tell. I for one see an increase in rental costs due to the slow down in the Manhattan market.

    Posted by Anonymous | October 9, 2007 2:38 PM

    Noah,
    Same Steve as above. Jim Miller had the most outstanding chart/graph for total new condo and coop development/conversions coming onto the Manhattan market since 1985. It is one of his specialty charts. It is a stunning visual of all the late 80's inventory coming to market. It was something like 4 years of 25k units per year. Jim Miller projected out to 2008. The chart was done in 2005 and I was wondering if you had any graphs available for new development/conversions for actuals and projected years 2006-2010

    Posted by Steve | October 9, 2007 2:40 PM

    Anon - oh, wait a sec, understand what I meant! I too see rental increases have seen increases for past few years!

    What I am saying is that I think that rental rates have risen SO MUCH (some 50% in past 2-3 years), that I am seeing mgmt companies start to offer incentives - a clear sign demand is waning a bit. Also, I am hearing you can negotiate, another sign of demand waning a bit.

    Nothing goes straight up forever, so I think rents have topped out a bit here! Lets see what next 6-12 months bring, as I would expect rents to either stay put or drop a bit, but not rise anymore from peaks a few months ago!

    Posted by Noah | October 9, 2007 2:46 PM

    Steve - unfortunately no. But I would love to see his chart?

    LINK?

    Posted by Noah | October 9, 2007 2:49 PM

    Steve - unfortunately no. But I would love to see his chart?

    LINK?

    Posted by Noah | October 9, 2007 2:49 PM

    Noah,
    At Millersamuel.com click on charts(on top), scroll down to special + curbed charts 2005/2006. It's the 1st column of charts 3 down labeled "Coop and Condo units entering the market" ...looks like a big mountain cliff... I've asked Jim to update but he hasn't responded.
    Thanks

    Posted by Steve | October 9, 2007 2:57 PM

    Noah,
    At Millersamuel.com click on charts(on top), scroll down to special + curbed charts 2005/2006. It's the 1st column of charts 3 down labeled "Coop and Condo units entering the market" ...looks like a big mountain cliff... I've asked Jim to update but he hasn't responded.
    Thanks

    Posted by Steve | October 9, 2007 2:58 PM

    ahh I see link:

    http://www.millersamuel.com/charts/gallery-view.php?ViewNode=1132752161iuzhS&Record=6

    His name is Jonathan, not Jim. I would love to see this chart again, as obviously this is out of date.

    Posted by Noah | October 9, 2007 3:01 PM

    I thought the Ansonia was an up-and-running condo?

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