More Transparency Can Clean Up Industry

Posted by Noah Rosenblatt on February 8, 2007 at 1.06 PM

A: I recently had a realization as I was submitting a bid on behalf of a client and was told by the listing broker that a higher offer was submitted and that we had one chance to up our bid. I was told the offer was accepted already, but that no contracts were sent out so that my clients had one last chance to get the property; so we upped our bid and I had to advise my client on the hardest aspect of my job --> how high to go. And then it dawned on me. If there were only a one-stop site that has complete data on co-op and condo sales in Manhattan, only then will I be able to see whether or not the listing broker was being honest or unethical.

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A little over a week ago the NY Times had a story called, 'Agents of Angst', which went into detail on how real estate agents are a step below used car salesman in terms of reputation. Here is an excerpt:

A Harris poll conducted last year that ranked occupations in terms of prestige placed real estate brokers at the very bottom of a list of 23 professions. (Firefighters and doctors were at the top.)

To start with, brokers are salespeople, so buyers with suspicious minds would naturally suspect brokers of trying to sell them something they don't necessarily want or need. But brokers also admit that some real estate agents help to perpetuate stereotypes with classic bait-and-switch schemes and by putting their own desires to close a deal over a client's best interests. The fact that brokers themselves sometimes find it hard to trust one another only compounds the level of suspicion in real estate.

Yea yea yea.. I know all of this. Which is one of the reasons I started blogging in the first place so potential clients have a window into how I work, think, view the markets, and treat clients. But how could it get better?

MAKE REAL ESTATE TRANSACTIONS COMPLETELY TRANSPARENT!

Think about it. If an agent knew in advance that the actual price of the property would eventually be made public and be accessible to anyone with internet access, than how could they get away with unethical behavior when the deal is closed? The situation would in essence change the playing field, I would think, as agents could now be accused of unethical behavior or not observing their fiduciary responsibilities to their client (the seller) and risk losing their license and credibility in the field. Well, assuming they have credibility.

For example, consider this situation in a world where ALL transaction data is made public within a week of closing:

Sally Seller Broker is hired to market property at $500,000 ---> Buyer Broker Bob submits a bid of $465,000 on behalf of their client ---> Sally Seller Broker receives bid of $455,000 from a direct client with NO buyer broker ---> Sally Seller Broker ONLY submits direct client's bid to seller ---> Deal closes for 455,000

Although the deal is now closed and Buyer Broker Bob can't do anything to reverse it, he will be able to see very clearly that Sally Seller Broker acted in their OWN best interests and never disclosed a competing bid to their client, the seller. Sally Seller Broker was acting this way to ensure a higher commission for herself; and the seller never had a clue. But Buyer Broker Bob does and can now contact REBNY, DOS Licensing Services, MEDIA outlets and perhaps even the seller if he kept proof of the bid being submitted before any contract was signed.

Perhaps if Sally Seller Broker knew in advance that unethical behavior (that caused this industry to get such a bad reputation in the first place) would be easily revealed at the close of the deal, they would be less likey to commit such acts and more likely to behave ethically and in their clients best interests. Which is all we can strive for.

SITES TRYING TO HELP

Streeteasy.com - One of my favorite NYC real estate aggregators and search engine. I use it quite often for my own clients and find it very useful. Recent upgrades in services offered allow you to pay $10/mth for access to comparable sales data collected.

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ACRIS System - City provided Automated City Register Information System. Has co-op sales and is free to use. Need to know LOT/BLOCK # or NAME of buyer. Cannot enter building address.

PropertyShark.com
- All purpose building/unit data resource. Co-op comps listed by date after you go in and select a neighborhood.

UrbanDigs Says: Its hard being an honest salesman! But hopefully help is on the way. By making real estate transactions completely transaparent, brokers, buyers, and sellers will be able to tell whether or not their higher offer was ever submitted to the seller by the hired listing broker. Should you find that the deal did in fact close for a sizeable amount UNDER what your client's bid was, and you know for a fact that your bid was submitted BEFORE any offer was accepted and contract signed, well then you now have a complaint to file against the unethical party involved as long as you have the records to prove it. Hopefully this new world of transparency that is soon to be upon us will help CLEAN UP this industry of some sorts of foul play via the realization that it won't be so easy to get away with anymore!

Now that my client's bid of $1.7M is in, its just a waiting game to hear whether it was accepted or not. Should it not be accepted, I certainly will keep my eyes open to what this apt eventually sold for by looking it up on public records. Only then will I know what we were up against and whether or not there really was another higher bid submitted!

Comments (7)

Frankly, I'm shocked there is no central place to go to find comps...even by the agents. Here in the Heartland, Jackson County, MO recently put up a public accessible website showing all sales. Anyone can view them...not just agents...and in my mind that is a very good thing.

Posted by Chris Lengquist | February 8, 2007 9:21 AM

Yes it is a very good thing. The brokerage system I use are TAXI & OLR. I know other firms use ROLEX. However the systems I use are ONLY as complete as the agents involved in the deal make it. If they dont put the purchase price in after the deal is done, then I cant see it!

Specifically in TAXI, there is a 'A' next to the sale price if it is the acual price and a 'E' next to it if it is estimated. Unfortunately, there are many E's and many sales w/out any data. It MUST GET BETTER!

Posted by Noah | February 8, 2007 9:34 AM

BRAVO Noah! That happens often in Queens as well.
IImagine this. Monday Night house is available. Tues - I have offer and by Wednesday MORNING- IN CONTRACT?

How can that be?? - Who is the attorney - because he is fast and good. I need one like that.

What I think is the weekend open house brought in some activity on Monday - by Tuesday there was TALK fromListing agents own buyer and MY offer is never presented -
As per our MLS rules, I can NOT go ring the bell of the seller to find out. I can request from the listing agent an offer acknowledgement - HA! My hands are tied. So, why wouldn't buyers want to deal direct with the listing agent. They are under the impression that they get the first worm.... THIS has got to change.
I remember having bidding wars - the only bidders who ever won out - were the listing agents offices. LUDACRIS!

Posted by Christine | February 8, 2007 12:39 PM

Christine - Very true. I dont know how it could be changed, but Im sure an answer is out there and the market will eventually integrate it through technology somehow.

Just found out the bid wasn't accepted. What a shock!

Should I find that this apt SOLD for under $1.7M, I'll do whatever I can to tell the story and file a complaint.

Posted by Noah | February 8, 2007 1:54 PM

Hi Noah

I wanted to let you know I really appreciate the work you do on this site. I am a recent immigrant to the USA, currently renting but will be looking to buy a place sometime over the next year or two . Your honesty in all your posts really sets u apart. You are not trying to sugarcoat things that are potentially negative.. Im not sure if you deal outside of Manhattan, (As I live in Brooklyn and would most likely be looking to buy a townhouse there) but if you do I would love to have you as my broker representative when the time comes. Many thanks once again

Posted by Mark Ingledew | February 8, 2007 2:53 PM

Mark - Thx for the words! Im launching a buy-side consulting service with 2 agents that I have been training for past 2-3 months. They are almost ready. When it launches, it will extend the philosophies / strategies of everything I talk about on Urbandigs, for buyer clients.

Brooklyn is fine. Draw the line on LI. Shoot me an email when your ready and by then, the team and all this work will be put into actions and give NY buyers a new type of buy-side consulting service. Ill be involved in the initial consultation and the property valuation / bidding strategy aspects of the transaction.

Posted by Noah | February 8, 2007 3:17 PM

I used to work for a real estate firm that was horrific. It is a company that rips off all of its new agents... stating they pay 40% commission... but when you look at your paycheck.. it's less than 15% commission. Sadly, they also teach you how to manipulate clients to renting or buying. The worst case scenario is wasting client's time by posting thousands of ads on craigslist, ny times, backpage, etc... then when a prospective calls regarding the ad, the agent is taught to sidetrack the prospective to take their info, get them to the office... by the time the prospective gets to the office, they generally forget what they initially asks for. sad to say, but the agent wastes more of their time repeating the same questions on the phone, searching through OLR, then having to reschedule an appt for a viewing of the apt. and not to say to worst of all is price fixing the commission at 15% ... no matter what! and higher if it's an exclusive listing and refusing to negotiate the commission price.

all in all, it really say how deceitful brokers are... there are good ones out there, but at the end of the day, it's about $$$ and competing against the 26,000 agents in the city.

Posted by Kris | February 9, 2007 12:57 AM

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